This is a continuation of our report exposing some enemies of Pakistan who are busy circulating gruesome anti-Pakistan army videos in emails and defending their attacks against the Pakistan army.

A few more words need to be added to expose one Kaukab Siddique. In an email, Mr. Siddique was asked (emphasis added):

“Let me ask you Kaukab, do you support what is shown in the videos
passed by your buddy “paktalib@gmail.com” which displays the martyrdom
of Pak army officers and where Pak army is addressed as “napak army”
and where TAKFIR is made upon them (they are called “murtadeen”)???

You did not speak against that, but you instantly spoke against me
when I was condemning the punk “paktalib@gmail.com”

I presume you agreed with everything that was said and distributed by
this terrorist “paktalib@gmail.com”?”

The above were straightforward questions. Mr. Siddique had a wonderful opportunity to distance himself from the contents of his friend’s email, namely, the anti-Pakistan army rhetoric, the takfirs and and insults heaped upon the army, and the support of terrorist activities (suicide bombings in Pakistan). As expected, Mr. Siddique completely avoided giving a reply to the above questions. Instead, he issued the following irrelevant rant:

“I want to know both sides of the story.

I get propaganda published by Kayani’s man Maj. General Athar Abbas [a shi’ite] almost every day. Most of it is plain lies.

I also read European papers.

From Pakistan Taliban I have received this information which is very difficult to get.
You did not want me to know the Islamic perspective on the situation?”

There you go! In other words, he is saying YES!

To remind the readers, I had asked Kaukab Siddique to speak against the linked videos included in a mass circulated email by his friend “paktalib” under the following captions:

  • Swat: “The Hell of Murtadeen”
  • Swat: “The Hell of Murtadeen 2“
  • New martyrdom video from Pakistan taliban 23/05/09
  • New original movie clip of pakistani taliban ” martyrdom bomber” killing himself and killing alot of pakistani soldiers ” apostates “with him inside building in swat valley in pakistan
  • Taliban mujahideen destroying camp of pakistani army in Waziristan
  • Napak_fauj.wmv – 117.1 Mb

For Mr. Siddique, the above filth is the “Islamic perspective on the situation!”

Not once did he speak out against the above blatant promotion of terrorism. Instead, he got upset only when I spoke against “paktalib@gmail.com” for proudly circulating the above filth and when I spoke against Siddique’s dearly beloved terrorists, the khuwarij Jahiliban.

In another recent email, Mr. Siddiqui unleashes a new barrage of venomous attack upon the Pakistan army. He also dismisses the fatwa issued against the Jahiliban by many of the foremost Muslim scholars and directs more praise towards the terrorism of the Jahiliban (emphasis added):

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The ulama who gave fatwa against the Taliban are not representatives of Islam in Pakistan. Their fatwa was ignored even by Deobandi ulema as well as by Jamaate Islami.
Every Pakistani government has a few puppet maulvies who can give such silly fatwas.

Maulvi Fazlullah and Maulana Soofi and Maulana Abdul Aziz are genuine scholars of Islam who do not bow before America or General Kayani’s rented army.

From the Islamic point of view, Pakistan’s army, fighting at the orders of America, is doing HARAAM activities, The Taliban giving their lives are shaheed.

Maulvi Fazlullah, the lion of Swat, is fighting back because the rented army of Kayani invaded Swat.

You call yourself GI Joe and you support America’s Pakistani rented army. Why do you talk about Islam. This army is the only army in the history of Muslims which surrendered in front of Hindus.

Inshallah, the Taliban will win or they will be shaheed. The soldiers and generals rented by America will go to jahannnum, inshallah.

Your calling someone “crane operator” shows that you do not know Islam. Do you know that Prophet Muhammad, pbub, worked with his hands and even mended his own shoes.

A crane operator who defies the enemies of Islam and Pakistan is better than one who sits comfortably and supports tawaghit, kuffar and munafiqeen.

May Allah help you to see that Zionism has entered Pakistan through the army of Kayani. He gets his orders directly from America. Read this carefully:

This following factual news item was published in a Pakistani newspaper and is confirmed from American sources, yet Pakistanis still did not wake up.

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Please note that this khuwariji SNAKE has expressed his desire for the Pakistan army to “go to jahannum” because they are allegedly committing “haram” activities (I guess the Jahiliban’s burning of schools, making children martyr army officers and others, beheading anyone on the basis of any silly suspicion, killing thousands of civilians deliberately, and terrorising the masses are all “halal” acts!) He says the murderous Jahiliban Khuwarij thugs fighting the mujahid Pakistan army are “shaheed.” Fazlullah, the terrorist and murderer, the one who has used children to martyr Pakistani soldiers and who has burnt dozens of schools, is foolishly labelled as the “lion of Swat” (an observation: it takes a third rate coward to deny women education and kill the innocent). He implies that I support the “tawaghit, kuffar and munafiqeen.” Since I only voiced my support for the Pakistan army, it follows that for Siddique the Pakistan army is “tawaghit, kuffar and munafiqeen.”

As if the above was not enough, Siddique even dares to idiotically compare our beloved Prophet (P) – who received wahi from none other than Allah – to the murderous scoundrel Fazlullah, who has absolutely no qualifications in any arena of Islamic sciences and who has been condemned by actual qualified scholars of Islam!

This SNAKE and khuwariji HATEMONGER, Kaukab Siddique, needs to be thoroughly exposed.

Kaukab Siddique’s personal email address: butshikan@msn.com Email of his organisation “Jamaat al-Muslimeen:” JAM4PEACE@GMAIL.COM (nothing this snake has expressed in his emails has anything to do with “peace.” He has only spewed hate, support for terrorism, and poison).

His address and phone number: (removed)

The address and phone number of his organisation “Jamaat al-Muslimeen:” (removed)

I ADVICE ALL READERS BASED IN AMERICA TO NOTIFY THE SECURITY AGENCIES ABOUT THIS SHADY FELLOW WHO SPREADING HATE AND VENOM AGAINST THE PAKISTAN ARMY AND OPENLY DEFENDING TERRORIST ACTS.

YOU NEVER KNOW IF HE IS COLLECTING FUNDS IN AMERICA BY CONNING MUSLIMS. THESE FUNDS COULD BE USED TO ASSIST THE TERRORIST JAHILIBAN

It is simply shocking to learn that this TERRORIST supporter is an associate professor in the English department at Lincoln University in Pennsylvania! Moreover, he is said to have authored five books on “Feminism in Islam” (jee, I wonder if he has ever heard Fazlullah’s radio sermon where he argues that education is not necessary for women? Forget the sermon, does he even know that the Jahiliban destroyed so many female schools throughout Sawat?). Mr Siddique is also a self-proclaimed “ameer” of an organisation called the “Jamaat al-Muslimeen.”

Imagine how many young minds he must have poisoned by this foul man. If this is the level of hate and extremism coming from an associate professor in a Western university, it then becomes frightening to even think how much extremism there must be among the far less educated Muslims, not only in the West but also in the East. Only God can help us from this disastrous state of affairs.

Please report Kaukab Siddique to the law enforcement agencies if you are based in the U.S.

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Posted by: uss017 | June 1, 2009

A Conversation with the Jahiliban

I never quite understood why a group responsible for so much mayhem, fitna and fasad in Afghanistan and now in Pakistan, through their very crude understanding of the Shariah, operated under the banner of the title: “Taliban.” The word “taliban” means “students.” A “talib” is a student. The members of the group (be it in Afghanistan or in Pakistan) who insist upon calling themselves “Taliban” can, in reality, hardly be described as “taliban” or “students.” A student/talib is supposed to go to a school, college or university in order to acquire an education whereas the overwhelming majority of the members of this group have never been to a school, college or university in their lives. Some, to be precise, have indeed gone to schools – girl schools to be specific. They did not enter girl schools in order to gain an education alongside girls or for dating but for the purpose of burning down the schools and, in some instances, killing the school teachers as well.

Some among this group have attended classes in “madrassahs,” religious seminaries. But again, these seminaries are, as far as I can tell, unaccredited and have no scholarly standing whatsoever. They teach “students” the basics of Islamic belief, memorisation of the Quran and convey some basic information on the hadith and Shariah (Islamic law), within a highly charged environment containing a heavy dose of poisonous rhetoric about “the Jews,” America etc. That’s about it. A “graduate” from such a seminary can never be described as a “scholar” of Islam. He/she is still a million miles removed from attaining the position of a scholar. At most, such a graduate comes out with a rudimentary knowledge of foundational Islam, which has been processed through a lot of political anger and emotional rhetoric. This graduate is ahead of most Muslims on just one matter: in most instances, he/she has completely memorised the Quran.

Essentially, these people are unqualified, often possessing a low I.Q and lacking the basic skills to maintain a job, let alone having the desire to attain higher education (be it in Islamic studies or any other subject).

Based on the above, I regard one to be insulting and significantly downgrading the respectable term “talib/taliban” whenever it is applied to the particular group which occupied 90% of Afghanistan for some years and which is now committing mass murders in Pakistan. The correct term, in my view, to describe this group is: JAHILIBAN (plural). Singular would be: JAHIL. The word “jahil” means “ignorant” and since there can be little doubt that the mass murderers of Sawat are ignorant of Islamic law and often lack basic education, they are, therefore, JAHILIBAN.

Unfortunately, the respectable word “Taliban” has already been bastartised. The word is now firmly stuck to a specific group based in Afghanistan and Pakistan which does not regard women to be human beings, denies women education, makes instant takfirs, kills innocent people on the basis of any unsubstantiated allegation with no due process whatsoever, and which believes in the imposition of a highly crude form of “Shariah,” a type of Shariah which has probably never existed in 1400 years of Islamic history. Therefore, if in this and future papers I refer to them as the “Taliban,” then that does not mean that I genuinely consider them to be “taliban” (students). I am just using this as a word – WITHOUT MEANING – to identify a specific group, without attaching to it the actual meaning of “taliban.” Again, in reality, these people are JAHILIBAN and we should use this FACTUALLY CORRECT term more and more frequently in our writings and talks.

I would now like to inform you about my email exchanges with a few members of the “Taliban” – JAHILIBAN. Like most people, I maintain multiple email addresses. A few days ago I received two emails in one of my accounts from a person I know nothing about. I have no idea how he came to acquire my email. The email was sent to many individuals and my email address was included in the pile of emails. The email was sent from this address:

paktalib@gmail.com

Judging from the email address alone, it is safe to assert that the owner, at the very least, regards himself to be a member of the Pakistani based “Taliban.” The contents of his emails were shocking. They contained pictures of the bodies of the shaheed (martyred) Pakistan army soldiers. The email praised the “Taliban” who had martyred the Pakistan army officers and contained a picture and praises for a suicide bomber. Moreover, the Pakistan army was labelled “Napak” (impure) army and were addressed as “murtadeen” (apostates from Islam). Most shocking, the email contained links to dozens and dozens of video clips uploaded on sites such as megafileupload.com, fdcupload.com, speedshare.org and many others. I did not dare check out these videos, but I am sure they contain clips of suicide bombings and killings of Pakistan army officers. In one of the email the clips were entitled as follows:

  • Swat: “The Hell of Murtadeen”
  • Swat: “The Hell of Murtadeen 2
  • New martyrdom video from Pakistan taliban 23/05/09
  • New original movie clip of pakistani taliban ” martyrdom bomber” killing himself and killing alot of pakistani soldiers ” apostates “with him inside building in swat valley in pakistan
  • Taliban mujahideen destroying camp of pakistani army in Waziristan
  • Napak_fauj.wmv – 117.1 Mb
  • These videos are said to have been made and distributed by the “Nida al-Jihad Center for Media Production.”

    Well then, after reading the above, I did the only intellectual thing I could do: I hit the “reply to all” button and went ahead to type a series of profanities in the email, calling this “paktalib” all the names in the book. I am absolutely proud and unrepentant of abusing him. But besides the abuse, I typed a lot of pro-Pakistan army slogans, praised the shaheed of Pakistan army, and issued curses on the Jahiliban, praying for them to rot in the lowest pit of hell.

    I am sure all the above left paktalib@gmail.com emotionally scarred and traumatised for the remainder of his miserable (and hopefully short) life.

    The most amazing part was the reaction I received from two Jahils, who are, no doubt, members of the Jahiliban. I paste below an email I received (my alias on the other account is “G.I. Joe” – bold original):

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    Inshallah, the Taliban will be victorious.
    G.I Joe is not aware that Maulvi Fazlullah is enacting the Laws of the Qur’an and the Hadith.

    Pakistan has become an Americanized country, extremely corrupt and oppressive.

    The Taliban are trying to save Pakistan from the clutches of Zionism and Imperialism.

    People like GI Joe are easily affected by army propaganda and turn against the Islamic forces.

    Here is what Maulvi Fazlullah had to say about Pakisan:

        Maulvi Fazlullah, Islamic jihad leader in Swat, Vows to Defend Pakistan to the last drop of his blood

        April 12, 2009: The National Peace Jirga leader Inamur Rahman met Maulvi Fazlullah at an unknown place in Swat. The Maulvi told the peace group that his only interest in the struggle has been that Islamic Law [Shari’a] be implemented in Swat. He said that he will no longer fight the Pak army if Shar’ia is implemented. If the Pak army does not put obstacles in the way of Shar’ia, the mujahideen will not even ask for damages for the losses they have suffered at the hands of the Pak army. He said he fully supports the efforts of Maulana Sufi Muhammad for the peaceful implementation of Shar’ia.

        He categoically rejected the disinformation campaign by the Pak regime that he is against Pakistan. He said that his loyalty to Pakistan is without question and he and his people will fight to the last drop of their blood for the defense of Pakistan.

        [Maulvi Fazlullah fought the Pakistani army to a standstill and created the situation in which Pakistan had to invite his father in law, Maulana Sufi, to head the movement for Shari’a in Swat. He leads the local Taliban and has solved hundreds of law cases in Swat and brought justice to the people of Swat.]

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    The above disgusting email in praise of the Jahiliban was sent by:

    Kaukab Siddique (email: butshikan@msn.com )

    Kaukab made a bobo in another email when he revealed his website: http://www.newtrendmag.org/home.htm

    Little did he realize that the website exposed his personal details. From the website we know that Dr.(!) Kaukab Siddique is the “Editor-in-Chief” of this trash pile and is almost certainly based in the U.S. This is the address and phone number on his website:

    PO Box 356 Kingsville MD 21087-0356 USA
    (443) 869 – 5233

    Notice Kaukab not once spoke against the Jahiliban. Not once did he speak against the takfir made on the Pakistan army, the abuse hurled towards them of being “Napak” (impure) army, and not once did he speak against the videos containing barbaric scenes of Jahiliban atrocities.

    Instead, Kaukab got “upset” on only one issue: my words against the Jahiliban. He got upset when I said the Jahiliban were Khuwarij. So, he hit back defending them!

    Subsequently I sent Kaukab an email giving him another chance to distance himself from the Jahiliban. I wrote:

    Let me ask you Kaukab, do you support what is shown in the videos
    passed by your buddy “paktalib@gmail.com” which displays the martyrdom
    of Pak army officers and where Pak army is addressed as “napak army”
    and where TAKFIR is made upon them (they are called “murtadeen”)???

    You did not speak against that, but you instantly spoke against me
    when I was condemning the punk “paktalib@gmail.com”

    I presume you agreed with everything that was said and distributed by
    this terrorist “paktalib@gmail.com”?

    To the above there has been no reply from Kaukab thus far, nor do I expect him to ever offer a reply. It is rather clear that he not only supports the Jahiliban, but he agreed with all of the nasty contents within “paktalib’s” email.

    In fact, Kaukab had this to say when another Pakistani replied back in anger against “paktalib” for proudly distributing gruesome attacks on the Pakistan army:

    Looks like “cancer” is quite out of touch with reality. Use of Amercan language shows that “cancer” is very angry.
    He supports the army of General Kayani rented by USA. He does not know that it is the Pakistani Taliban who are fighting for Islam and Pakistan.

    Kaukab uttered the above nonsense in the very same email thread on which nasty anti-Pakistani army videos were posted and multiple takfirs were made upon them, together with the praising of a hell bound suicide bomber who is said to have killed (rather, martyred) many Pakistani soldiers.

    I will request all Pakistani patriots based in the U.S. to notify the F.B.I, the C.I.A, the Police and all relevant authorities about this “Dr.” Kaukab Siddique Jahiliban supporter. He may well be collecting funds from unsuspecting and innocent Muslims in the U.S. for the support of the Jahiliban.

    The second unusual response to my email lambasting the Jahiliban came from one “Abu Taha” (email: abutaha@gmail.com ). Being a very good and observant Muslim, Abu Taha was irreversibly distressed after reading the forbidden profanities I had directed at “paktalib.” Abu Taha wrote:

    Asalam o Alaikum,

    are you muslim?? than why you do lot of abusing ??? your’s ULAMA said u! you can abuse in islam???

    Think brother think!

    JazakAllah khair..

    Let me get this straight: Abu Taha was, presumably, not the least bit distressed and disturbed by looking at pictures displaying the bloody bodies of the Shaheed Pakistan army officers; he was not upset by the gruesome uploaded videos proudly showing bloody scenes of barbarity; he was not upset when takfir was made on fellow Muslims (Pakistan army being labelled “murtadeen”) and he was certainly not upset when our army was addressed as “Napak” army. He did not dare utter one word against these acts.

    But Abu Taha, the “good” Muslim, was traumatised by the foul words I directed at “paktalib” and the Jahilibans!

    IDIOT! IDIOT! IDIOT! … This MORON wants me to “think” after marvellously displaying his buffoonery! AGHAGAGHAGHAGHA! (the scream of frustration).

    Long Live Pakistan!
    Pakistan Army Zindabad!
    DEATH to the Khuwariji takfiri heretical JAHILIBAN!

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    Posted by: uss017 | June 1, 2009

    Ansar Abbasi Exposed

    A third rate Pakistani ‘investigative’ journalist of The News and the well known Taliban sympathiser, Ansar Abbasi, recently accused former President Musharraf of 1 acquiring a free transformer and other equipment for his Chak Shehzad residence; 2 and, moreover, accused him of utilising a meter meant for agricultural use to which he is not entitled. Suffice it to say that both allegations turned out to be outright lies.

    Jhoota third rate journalist

    Jhoota third rate 'journalist'

    In response to the first allegation, Hammad Hussain, the architect of Musharraf’s Chak Shehzad house, writes:

    This information is totally wrong … A pay order of Rs 376,108 was deposited in the name of XEN(E), Islamabad-1 on 24th March and another pay order amounting to Rs. 102,000 was submitted as security deposit.

    Responding to the second charge, Hammad Hussain writes:

    As far as the electricity meter is concerned, the published bill clearly shows the date it was installed (Dec 2003). The plot is in the P & V scheme of CDA where an agriculture meter D-2(1) is installed in routine (by default) till a house is built on the plot for permanent occupancy. The farmhouse was occupied a few days ago and the new meter with A-1(b) tariff (for residential use) is in the process of being installed this week in place of the old meter as per the above-mentioned demand note.

    The Long Live Musharraf blog has done an excellent job in refuting these lies. For the detailed refutation, please see their:

    1. Rejoinder to Ansar Abbasi’s malicious and unsubstantiated report on General Musharraf’s farmhouse – contains a response by the architect of Musharraf’s house, Hammad Hussain.

    2. Ansar Abbasi’s twisted stand on General Musharraf’s farmhouse – a recap of the issue and exposition of Abbasi’s gymnastics.

    Please send emails to ‘The News’ to express your shock and disappointment at Ansar Abbasi’s yellow journalism and concoction of outright lies:

  • email: news.post@thenews.com.pk
  • cc to: thenews@isb.comsats.net.pk
  • Lodge your protest and demand ‘The News’ to publish an apology to Musharraf and to take action against their journalist who has been caught red handed telling lies.

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    © Musharraf Supporters 2009 All rights reserved

    Posted by: uss017 | May 31, 2009

    Chitral Supports Musharraf

    There is an interesting report on the BBC Urdu website:

  • Chitral: Pervez Musharraf ka haami nazar aya (rough translation:- Chitral: Came across as a Supporter of Pervez Musharraf) Monday, 25 May, 2009
    By Ijaz Mehar.
  • A rough summary:

    The reporter spoke to people in Chitral and was surprised to see them express their support for the former President, Pervez Musharraf. He spoke to a variety of people, people in shops to shop owners, and they all praised Musharraf. According to the reporter, Pervez Musharraf is more popular than most politicians in the Chitral area.

    According to one Chitrali Advocate, a reason for this support is the multi-billion rupees construction of the 8 km long Lowari tunnel in Sawat during the Musharraf era. This tunnel is now virtually complete and once done, Chitral will no longer be cut off from the rest of Pakistan during heavy snow falls. According to the Advocate, for decades the people of Chitral dreamed the construction of such a tunnel and Musharraf turned their dream into reality. Furthermore, the Advocate proceeded, if Musharraf ran for elections from Chitral, he would easily receive the majority of votes.

    Moving on, we are introduced to a Chitrali logger, one Ahmad Khan, who is said to be a friend of Pervez Musharraf. Khan said he loves Musharraf and has met him four times, eagerly showing his pictures with the former President.

    According to Ahmad Khan, Musharraf is an honest and a brave man. Khan said he cried a lot when Musharraf was attacked by terrorists. But upon learning that Musharraf was safe, he distributed sweets in the bazaars of Chitral. Khan said he is a poor man who earns his living selling wood, but that day he spent money distributing sweets in Chitral.

    Khan went on to say that he transformed his house into a polling station during the referendum and has not spoken to two of his relatives who voted against Musharraf.

    Echoing the words of the above referred Advocate, Khan also said that Musharraf would easily win the elections where he to run from Chitral and expressed his joy if Musharraf entered politics.

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    Almost daily on all Pakistani political analysis programmes, we are bombarded by bravado proclamations that Musharraf is allegedly ‘hated’ and ”disliked’ by 170 million Pakistanis. Almost every politician from the PML-N, the PPPP, the ANP and the PTI makes such assertions and boldly parades themselves as representatives of the 170 million people of Pakistan, with no exception whatsoever. These discredited, hypocritical and lying politicians should be advised to visit Chitral. Unless, of course, they regard the people of Chitral to be ‘non-Pakistanis’ for daring to support Musharraf!

    These lying politicians should also go out more and meet the Pakistani people since doing so would make it abundantly clear to them that many Pakistanis love, support and admire Pervez Musharraf. I support Musharraf and most people viewing this blog support Musharraf and most commenting here support Musharraf, many of our family members and friends support Musharraf and many of their family members and friends support Musharraf and on and on. How is it that we can so easily identify many Musharraf supporters from our immediate circles whereas Imran Khan, Zardari and Nawaz Sharif, for example, cannot spot a single Pakistani supporting Musharraf? We are all Pakistanis yet these politicians either refuse to accept our Pakistaniness or just ignore us by lying to be representatives of ‘all’ Pakistanis.

    Every time a politician, with not so much as a thought, proclaims boldly to be talking on behalf of the 170 million people of Pakistan, let it be known that he/she is lying from their teeth.

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    © Musharraf Supporters 2009 All rights reserved

    Posted by: uss017 | April 14, 2009

    Gilani on Economy

    According to Prime Minister Gilani,

    Our GDP has doubled to US $170 billion…

    It should be noted that the above obviously could not have occurred under the current regime or through any of their efforts. In reality, the above is the fruit of the hard work carried out by the Musharraf government from 1999 till 2007.

    Moreover:

    The Prime Minister pointed out that today we have a sound architecture in place for developing and strengthening strategic political, economic, commercial, scientific, technological and cultural relations between our two countries.

    Again, a quick reminder: the above is thanks only and only due to the effort of the Musharraf government from 1999 till 2007.

    While the Prime Minister took the time to mention the role of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Benazir Bhutto – conveniently forgetting the fact that both, particularly the former, ruined Pakistan’s economy – he made sure not to mention the one government which transformed our petty economy into the size of $170 billion, with a consistent GDP growth of 6%+ – the Musharraf government.

    Please read:

      Gilani calls upon Chinese companies to invest in Pakistan in a big way

    And let’s not forget:

  • PPPP Acknowledges the Improvement of Economy under Musharraf
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    © Musharraf Supporters 2009 All rights reserved

    Posted by: uss017 | April 2, 2009

    Pakistanis Felt More Prosperous Under Whom?

    Posted by: uss017 | March 11, 2009

    Musharraf India Today Conclave 2009

    The video of the discussion in its entirety, which consists of Aroon Purie’s introductory speech, Musharraf’s keynote speech, and the subsequent extensive Q & A session can be seen here:

  • All the video clips of Musharraf’s talks and interviews in India can also be accessed here.

    The above contains a far more extensive Q & A session compared to the earlier posted transcript.

    A more convenient way of listening to Musharraf’s speech and Q & A is by clicking on these links:

    The full transcript of Musharraf’s speech can be read here (together with Purie’s introduction) — The text of the speech by Musharraf can also be read here.

    Some interesting points from the the Q & A:

  • Musharraf claimed that there is far more hostility towards Pakistan in India, even war hysteria, than there is hostility towards India within Pakistan. Musharraf mentioned how there was little or no India bashing during Pakistan’s recent election. I agree with this after following a number of Indian news channels for a while, particularly after the Mumbai terrorist attack. Literally from the first few hours into the Mumbai attack the Indian media began its massive anti-Pakistan propaganda campaign. (The hostility can also be seen in the comments we find on the India Today website. For example, consider Prabhu Chawla’s comments here, where Musharraf is labeled a “sworn enemy.” This is the same Prabhu who complained in his interview with Musharraf as to why the latter referred to India as an “enemy” in his book. Showing his duplicity, Prabhu also boasts about letting Musharraf “expose himself.” See also this, this, and this, for example).
  • Farooq Abdullah acknowledged that the closest the two countries ever came towards resolving the Kashmir dispute was under Musharraf. He said he really believed that the Kashmir dispute would be sorted out under Musharraf and testified for the former President’s sincerity.
  • An Indian Muslim, Maulana Mahmood Madani, (Rajya Sabha Member and former General Secretary of Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Hind) displayed much hostility and rudeness towards Musharraf. It was shameful to see a maulana behaving in this un-Islamic manner, throwing in the bin basic Islamic etiquette. Musharraf, however, hit back with a fitting and sharp reply much to Madani’s annoyance. This can be seen in clip no. 12 in the Q & A session.

    I suppose there is more pressure upon Indian Muslims who go out of their way to “prove” their nationalism and support for India.

  • Near the end, one Irshad Manji asked Musharraf about honor killings. Manji is a lesbian (see “A Muslim calls for reform — and she’s a lesbian“) Canadian feminist, a known Islamophobe hate-monger, and author of the book “The Trouble with Islam” (later renamed: “The Trouble with Islam Today“). Manji claims that the Quran is a “bundle of contradictions” and refers to the supposed “blatant inconsistencies” therein (See Irshad Manji, The Trouble with Islam: A Muslim’s Call for Reform in Her Faith, 2004, First Edition, St. Martin’s Press, p. 36).

    [See also “Irshad Manji on the Qur’an” and “The Trouble with Irshad” by Elvan Zelda Elcin]

    Besides advocating homosexuality and arguing that it is not contrary to the Quran (see this for instance) , Manji is also a vocal Israeli propagandist (see M. Junaid Levesque-Alam’s, “Why Liberals Fear Islam: The Only Good Muslim is the Anti-Muslim“).

    To quote Levesque Alam:

    The Trouble With Islam Today is an unhinged polemic that derides Muslims and demeans their faith.

    Musharraf obviously did not know about Manji and expressed his willingness to sit down with her and discuss honor killings etc. I hope someone can inform the President about this character and advice him to stay away from her.

  • There was a lot of hostility towards Musharraf while the questions were being fired. He was also interrupted at times. But he stood strong, confident and gave clear cut replies and refutations, defending the army and the I.S.I.

    Moverover, while Musharraf was eager to discuss core issues of tension such as Kashmir and the emerging water dispute between the two countries, Indians seemed more interested to discuss the alleged presence of Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistan (Karachi) and his handover! While for Pakistan the Kashmir dispute and the emerging water dispute are the core issues of real tension between the two countries, it seems to me that the Indians seriously believe that the actual core dispute is Ibrahim and that all will be fine and dandy between the two countries once Pakistan returned Ibrahim to India! Musharraf said that he did not know if Ibrahim was present in Pakistan and rightly continued that even if this was true, tensions between the two countries would persist even after Ibrahim’s handover. The stiff Indian resistance to take into account the whole picture and to discuss the real pressing issues and, instead, to focus on minor peripheral matters, the resolution of which would do nothing much to seriously ease relations between the two countries in the long run, is an indication of the desperation and shoddy nature of the Indian position.

    Musharraf’s overarching theme was to press the point that both India and Pakistan had engaged in unfortunate activities in the past to harm each other. He argued we needed to move forward and stop dwelling in the past, constantly accusing each other of past misdeeds. He also strongly pressed the argument that the Pakistan Army and the I.S.I. were not playing any “double game” and were fully committed in fighting terrorism and extremism. Musharraf requested the Indians to stop blaming the Pakistan Army and the I.S.I. and to put an end to their propaganda campaign. Moreover, he also discussed the Indian involvement in terrorist activities in Afghanistan against Pakistan and their support for known terrorist individuals.

    See also Musharraf’s short interview clip with Aroon Purie here.

    [All the videos of Musharraf’s talks and interviews in India can also be seen here]

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    Musharraf Q & A Transcript of Delhi Lecture

    I would like to thank Saroor Zaidi (‘Friends of Pakistan‘) for putting together this transcript of the Q & A session between Musharraf and various Indian personalities.

    In the words of Saroor, an amazing confident Musharraf has stood tall and proud, and represented Pakistan to the fullest capacity with dignity and power.”

    There is no one in Pakistan who can represent the nation in this brave manner amidst an ocean of hostility. Unlike others, who love to make a statement or two against Pakistan while in India, Musharraf uttered not a word against Pakistan. Instead, he defended Pakistan with all his might in an unapologetic manner. This shows how bigger man Musharraf is than all of our politicians combined.

    All Pakistanis, including those who may not agree with his policies, are proud of Musharraf.

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    Arun Poorie: You are here as a messenger of peace. What did you do about it in the nine years when you were in power?

    Musharraf: Let’s stop the blame game. We need to look at the reality, forget the past and look ahead. I don’t know what I did wrong, but I can tell you I tried my best for peace between India and Pakistan. I was never negative when the opportunity for peace came to me.

    Arun Poorie: What plans do you have about the future?

    Musharraf: To me, the core issue is building confidence by greater people-to-people affinity. Once the confidence is there, we should move towards resolving the core issues, and stop meddling with the internal affairs of each other’s country.

    Arun Poorie: What do you have to say about what happened on 26/11 in Mumbai?

    Musharraf: Let’s stop the war hysteria. Just a day into the investigations, the Pakistani army and the ISI was blamed for it. I am for a considered and matured response to these issues. As far as the investigations are concerned, the Pakistani government should fully cooperate and the guilty should be punished.

    Arun Poorie: Are there any terrorist camps in Pakistan?

    Musharraf: See we have done damage to each other. I am aware of what the Indian embassy is doing in Jalalabad and Kandahar. A terrorist from Kabul has been received by Indian intelligence agencies in India and looked after. I have documents to show this. Let us stop the blame game. India is a big country. You try to do damage to us, we will do damage to you. We should address the trust deficit between the two countries. The ISI does the same thing as the RAW does. There is no distinction.

    Ravi Shankar Prasad: In the face of the present situation, do you see Taliban taking over Pakistan?

    Musharraf: Areas in the North West Frontier [Province] where the problem is, account for less then one percent of the population. There is no danger of Taliban taking over Pakistan politically.

    Arun Poorie: What specific confidence-building measures do you have for the future?

    Musharraf: We need to look at strategic issues. We will have to address the water issue which would develop into a new conflict between the nations. We have to stick to the Indus Valley treaty.

    Soli Sorabjee: Will you hand over Dawood Ibrahim to us as a confidence building measure?


    Musharraf:
    This is a small issue. I do not know if he is there. I too have a long list of people that India needs to give us. The role of Indian embassy in Afghanistan in Jalalabad and Kandahar is not good either.

    Individuals are a small issue. We need to look at strategic issues. I do not think handing over Dawood will change anything. I know it will not help in easing tensions between the two nations, if that happens then you will have to hand over Dawood back to Pakistan (laughs).

    Rahul Kanwal: A conversation of Gen Kayani, the army chief who succeeded you, has been intercepted where he said Taliban is a ‘strategic asset’?

    Musharraf: This is a lie. He cannot say that. I challenge them to show me the proof. It is a lie.

    Amar Singh: When our (then) PM Vajpayee travelled to Lahore by bus to Lahore for friendship, Kargil happened. Now you say you are for peace?

    Musharraf: I would not like to comment on this issue. I have dealt with this matter in my book.

    Shekhar Gupta: Compare your years in power with that of Ziaul Haq.

    Musharraf: The comparison cannot be done as the situation and ground realities were very different in both times. You must understand that Pakistan is not the perpetuator of terror but a victim of terror in the last 30 years.

    Question: How is it to live in Pakistan and not be in charge?

    Musharraf: It’s good. I am relaxed. The most difficult job was to take decisions in highly complex situations. Now I read about them in the papers.

    General VP Malik: What are the chances of the army taking over Pakistan again? How can India help Pakistan in its problems?

    Musharraf: It is the internal matter of Pakistan. The political leadership can deal with the situation. I would not like to comment on that. India can help Pakistan by not maligning Pakistani army and the ISI in the world.

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    See also:

  • Musharraf India Interview 2009
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    Musharraf India Interview 2009

    Former President Musharraf’s interview in India can be seen here.

    The interview can also be seen here.

    Download in FLV Format: 48.6MB

    I strongly suspect that the above is not the full interview; bits and pieces appear to have been left out. Nonetheless, we see Musharraf once again promoting and defending Pakistan’s stance on a number of issues, primarily the Kashmir issue and the problem of extremism/terrorism, in an unapologetic manner.

    One issue needs to be clarified. It has been reported that Musharraf allegedly expressed his desire to regain the Presidency of Pakistan in the near future. It comes as no surprise that some people are using this alleged statement to attack Musharraf. After having seen the above interview, I conclude that the former President is being quoted out of context. Towards the end of the interview (clip #6 here or time slice 17:21 – 17:48 here), Musharraf was asked whether or not if after his resignation he again desired to become the President of Pakistan? Musharraf very slightly swayed his head in the negative and said ‘no’ as the interviewer continued speaking. Immediately thereafter a hypothetical scenario was presented to Musharraf: ‘WHAT IF‘ such an offer was made to him (‘agar up ku offer kiya jai‘ and: ‘agar aup ku koi offer karta hai tu‘?)? To this hypothetical question Musharraf replied that he would see what type of an offer it was and IF he could play a role therein (‘no … offer agar koi karta hai tu mey dekhunga agar mey usmey koi role adda karsekta hu‘ and: agar mey role play karsekta hu tu‘). He proceeded to state that he would obviously accept an offer ONLY IF he could play a useful role and that he would not like to be a useless President who did not contribute.

    Thus, I do not see what the hoopla is about. He merely said that he would accept an offer only if it allowed him to contribute and play a positive role. Musharraf was speaking in purely hypothetical terms. He did not state as a matter of fact that he wanted or desired to regain the Presidency. Of course, I do hope, wish and pray that Musharraf comes back to power in Pakistan. Pakistan needs him badly. But, for the time being, the former President is being wise in refraining to comment upon Pakistan’s messy politics.

    I am after the video clip of the Q & A session in India where the former President had to face a barrage of hostile questions from a variety of Indian personalities. I hope someone can post the link if it has been uploaded somewhere.

    The transcript of the Q & A session can be seen here:

  • Musharraf Q & A Transcript of Delhi Lecture
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