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		<title>By: PPPP Acknowledges the Improvement of Economy under Musharraf &#171; Musharraf Supporters</title>
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		<dc:creator>PPPP Acknowledges the Improvement of Economy under Musharraf &#171; Musharraf Supporters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PAKISTAN BACK TO BEGGING under ‘DEMOCRACY’! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Waqar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waqar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islamabad, Jan 16 : The PPP-led government may have publicly criticized former President Musharraf for the present financial mess, but in its official documents, it has reportedly appreciated the economic policies of the previous regime as they served as a strong base for seeking loans from multilateral donors and friends of Pakistan.


To public, the PPP-led coalition partners have been blaming the Musharraf regime in public speeches for fudging economic figures to paint a rosy picture.

The letter of intent (LoI), on the basis of which Pakistan sought the much-needed 7.6 billion dollars bailout package from the International Monitory Fund (IMF), has bit by bit appreciated the policies of the Musharraf regime since 2000. 

During the past one decade (1999-2007), the LoI says Pakistan&#039;s economy witnessed a major economic transformation from substantial increase in the volume of gross domestic product (GDP) to greater international trade.

Talking to Dawn, former Finance Minister Ishaq Dar informed whatever he said about the health of economy was based on the balance sheet existed on March 31, 2008. 

He said the cabinet headed by Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani dully approved the balance sheet.

An official source requesting not to be named said the economic wizards in the finance ministry are not politicians to make only speeches but they have to look into ground realities. &quot;We reported to IMF whatever is factual and based on evidence,&quot; the official added. 

The LoI said the country&#039;s real GDP increased from 60 billion dollars in 2000-01 to 170 billion dollars in 2007-08 with per capital income rising from under 500 dollars to over 1000 dollars. During the same period, the volume of international trade increased to nearly 60 billion dollars from 20 billion dollars. 

For most of this period, real GDP grew at more than 7 per cent a year with relative price stability.

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[&lt;strong&gt;Moderator:&lt;/strong&gt; Can someone also present the source of the above report? Secondly, can we view the LoI ourselves to verify the above since it still leaves some doubt (&quot;it has &lt;em&gt;reportedly&lt;/em&gt; appreciated the...&quot;) ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamabad, Jan 16 : The PPP-led government may have publicly criticized former President Musharraf for the present financial mess, but in its official documents, it has reportedly appreciated the economic policies of the previous regime as they served as a strong base for seeking loans from multilateral donors and friends of Pakistan.</p>
<p>To public, the PPP-led coalition partners have been blaming the Musharraf regime in public speeches for fudging economic figures to paint a rosy picture.</p>
<p>The letter of intent (LoI), on the basis of which Pakistan sought the much-needed 7.6 billion dollars bailout package from the International Monitory Fund (IMF), has bit by bit appreciated the policies of the Musharraf regime since 2000. </p>
<p>During the past one decade (1999-2007), the LoI says Pakistan&#8217;s economy witnessed a major economic transformation from substantial increase in the volume of gross domestic product (GDP) to greater international trade.</p>
<p>Talking to Dawn, former Finance Minister Ishaq Dar informed whatever he said about the health of economy was based on the balance sheet existed on March 31, 2008. </p>
<p>He said the cabinet headed by Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani dully approved the balance sheet.</p>
<p>An official source requesting not to be named said the economic wizards in the finance ministry are not politicians to make only speeches but they have to look into ground realities. &#8220;We reported to IMF whatever is factual and based on evidence,&#8221; the official added. </p>
<p>The LoI said the country&#8217;s real GDP increased from 60 billion dollars in 2000-01 to 170 billion dollars in 2007-08 with per capital income rising from under 500 dollars to over 1000 dollars. During the same period, the volume of international trade increased to nearly 60 billion dollars from 20 billion dollars. </p>
<p>For most of this period, real GDP grew at more than 7 per cent a year with relative price stability.</p>
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<p>[<strong>Moderator:</strong> Can someone also present the source of the above report? Secondly, can we view the LoI ourselves to verify the above since it still leaves some doubt ("it has <em>reportedly</em> appreciated the...") ]</p>
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		<title>By: Naseer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naseer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nawas Sharif the Alambardar of Democracy 

A baby born during Zia Ul Haque days , and Zia Ul Haque was happy that Nawaz Sharif is calling daddy, daddy bring him in politics as Punjab Finance Minster, Baby own father Mian Sharif start preparing newly born marshalla baby to go higher post and the play started.

After the electoin Nawaz Sharif become the Cheif Minister of  Punjab.

During Zia Ul Haque time MUSLIM LEAGUE DIVIDED  Fida Khan become president of MUSLIM LEAGUE which was not recognised by Zia Ul Haque and his ball went o straight away NAWAZ SHARIF ARMS he was waiting that daddy is giving me the chance.

SO THE LINE IS CLEAR

BABY OF MARSHALL LAW IS NAWAZ SHARIF

PEOPLE CANNOT FORGET THAT WHE THE DAUGHTER OF ZIA UL HAQUE WAS CALLING BROTHER TO HIM

WHO WAS THE  AMRIAT KI PAIDAWAR 
THE ANSWER IS NAWAZ SHARIF

HE IS CALLING ALWAYS DICTATOR THIS AND THAT 

WHY NOT HE HIMSELF DECLARING THAT HE BORN IN POLITICS FROM AMRIAT AND DICTATORSHIP WAY.

I HAVE NOT SEEN THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST MUNAFAQ AND ONLY ONE PROVINCE LEADER TRYING TO DESTALISHED PAKISTAN AGAIN 
HIS BROTHER IS THE SAME

HE IS DOUBLE MUNAFAQ AND HE GOT THE BRAIN TUMOR AND STILL ALIVE SURPRISING TO ME.

NO PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN JUSTICE WHO WAS DICTATOR AND HOW HE BECOME THE POLITCIANS   

I AM SURE THE ANSWER IS THAT

FROM AMRIAT - 

AND PPP LEADERSHIP IS ACCEPTING HIM AS A LEADER

THE PERSON WAS RIHT HAND OF ZIA UL HAQUE WHO BY FORCE SAID JUDGES TO HANG ZULFIQAR ALI BHUTTO 7 AND 6 STILL ON THE RECORDS.

SHAME FOR PPP, THE TOOLA OF HIS FOUNDER KILLERS IS THEIR FRIENDS.

NAWAZ SHARIF FOR MENTALLY SICK PHYSCIALLY FAT AND NO CHANCE FOR HIM AGAIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nawas Sharif the Alambardar of Democracy </p>
<p>A baby born during Zia Ul Haque days , and Zia Ul Haque was happy that Nawaz Sharif is calling daddy, daddy bring him in politics as Punjab Finance Minster, Baby own father Mian Sharif start preparing newly born marshalla baby to go higher post and the play started.</p>
<p>After the electoin Nawaz Sharif become the Cheif Minister of  Punjab.</p>
<p>During Zia Ul Haque time MUSLIM LEAGUE DIVIDED  Fida Khan become president of MUSLIM LEAGUE which was not recognised by Zia Ul Haque and his ball went o straight away NAWAZ SHARIF ARMS he was waiting that daddy is giving me the chance.</p>
<p>SO THE LINE IS CLEAR</p>
<p>BABY OF MARSHALL LAW IS NAWAZ SHARIF</p>
<p>PEOPLE CANNOT FORGET THAT WHE THE DAUGHTER OF ZIA UL HAQUE WAS CALLING BROTHER TO HIM</p>
<p>WHO WAS THE  AMRIAT KI PAIDAWAR<br />
THE ANSWER IS NAWAZ SHARIF</p>
<p>HE IS CALLING ALWAYS DICTATOR THIS AND THAT </p>
<p>WHY NOT HE HIMSELF DECLARING THAT HE BORN IN POLITICS FROM AMRIAT AND DICTATORSHIP WAY.</p>
<p>I HAVE NOT SEEN THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST MUNAFAQ AND ONLY ONE PROVINCE LEADER TRYING TO DESTALISHED PAKISTAN AGAIN<br />
HIS BROTHER IS THE SAME</p>
<p>HE IS DOUBLE MUNAFAQ AND HE GOT THE BRAIN TUMOR AND STILL ALIVE SURPRISING TO ME.</p>
<p>NO PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN JUSTICE WHO WAS DICTATOR AND HOW HE BECOME THE POLITCIANS   </p>
<p>I AM SURE THE ANSWER IS THAT</p>
<p>FROM AMRIAT &#8211; </p>
<p>AND PPP LEADERSHIP IS ACCEPTING HIM AS A LEADER</p>
<p>THE PERSON WAS RIHT HAND OF ZIA UL HAQUE WHO BY FORCE SAID JUDGES TO HANG ZULFIQAR ALI BHUTTO 7 AND 6 STILL ON THE RECORDS.</p>
<p>SHAME FOR PPP, THE TOOLA OF HIS FOUNDER KILLERS IS THEIR FRIENDS.</p>
<p>NAWAZ SHARIF FOR MENTALLY SICK PHYSCIALLY FAT AND NO CHANCE FOR HIM AGAIN.</p>
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		<title>By: Naseer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naseer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imran Khan Past and Future

I still remember one of the WORLD RECOGNISED LEGEND SUPERSTAR OF PAKISTAN said Imran was more interested to take the talenders wickets rather then top batsman, and the history is saying if we will calculate.

No doub the was the great allrounder but we have to calculate.

His cow boy scandals also open - Sita White to Jamima Khan.

NOW IN POLITICS

Now days he is new Chokidar of Islam,  BALI 100 CHOA KHA KAR HAJ PAR CHALI, 

He did his life enjoyment now become the chokidar of muslims.

He was kicking out Altaf Hussain from England because he go the evidences and time frame was 3 months.

YEAR HAS GONE

NOW DAYS HE ALSO GOT MUSHRAFF PHOBIA 
APDM   &quot;THANGA PARTIES DRAMA&quot;

He is well qualifed but now days he is looking dream to beome Pm OF Pakistan.

Wihout MUSHRAFFPHOBIA he cannot eat.

OH IMRAN KHAN SHUT UP , learn your past , you were the dictator  in  Cricket  durin your captaincy days you were swearing the boys and you were brining your choice players

YOU SPOILED THE CAREER OF QASIM UMAR , 

HISTORY OF CRICKET IS WELL AWARE THAT YOU WERE DICTATOR 

YOU ARE ALWAYS SAYING MUSHRAFF WAS DICTATOR WHAT YOU WERE 

LOOK IN YOUR COLOR 

CHARSI - CHELSEA FLAT IS STILL WITNESS 
THAT YOU WERE SPENDING THE NIGHT WITH XXX
EVEN AFTER WORD CUP WON YOU ASK THE BOYS TO HAVE THE MONEY WHICH THEY EARN FROM WORD CUP FOR YOUR SHOUKAT KHANAM CANCER HOSPITAL.

TALK ON REALITY DONT GO DEEPLY IF YOU ARE WELL QUALIFIED.

YOU ARE STILL BABY IN POLITICS.

SHAME ON YOU MR. KHAN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imran Khan Past and Future</p>
<p>I still remember one of the WORLD RECOGNISED LEGEND SUPERSTAR OF PAKISTAN said Imran was more interested to take the talenders wickets rather then top batsman, and the history is saying if we will calculate.</p>
<p>No doub the was the great allrounder but we have to calculate.</p>
<p>His cow boy scandals also open &#8211; Sita White to Jamima Khan.</p>
<p>NOW IN POLITICS</p>
<p>Now days he is new Chokidar of Islam,  BALI 100 CHOA KHA KAR HAJ PAR CHALI, </p>
<p>He did his life enjoyment now become the chokidar of muslims.</p>
<p>He was kicking out Altaf Hussain from England because he go the evidences and time frame was 3 months.</p>
<p>YEAR HAS GONE</p>
<p>NOW DAYS HE ALSO GOT MUSHRAFF PHOBIA<br />
APDM   &#8220;THANGA PARTIES DRAMA&#8221;</p>
<p>He is well qualifed but now days he is looking dream to beome Pm OF Pakistan.</p>
<p>Wihout MUSHRAFFPHOBIA he cannot eat.</p>
<p>OH IMRAN KHAN SHUT UP , learn your past , you were the dictator  in  Cricket  durin your captaincy days you were swearing the boys and you were brining your choice players</p>
<p>YOU SPOILED THE CAREER OF QASIM UMAR , </p>
<p>HISTORY OF CRICKET IS WELL AWARE THAT YOU WERE DICTATOR </p>
<p>YOU ARE ALWAYS SAYING MUSHRAFF WAS DICTATOR WHAT YOU WERE </p>
<p>LOOK IN YOUR COLOR </p>
<p>CHARSI &#8211; CHELSEA FLAT IS STILL WITNESS<br />
THAT YOU WERE SPENDING THE NIGHT WITH XXX<br />
EVEN AFTER WORD CUP WON YOU ASK THE BOYS TO HAVE THE MONEY WHICH THEY EARN FROM WORD CUP FOR YOUR SHOUKAT KHANAM CANCER HOSPITAL.</p>
<p>TALK ON REALITY DONT GO DEEPLY IF YOU ARE WELL QUALIFIED.</p>
<p>YOU ARE STILL BABY IN POLITICS.</p>
<p>SHAME ON YOU MR. KHAN</p>
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		<title>By: Naseer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naseer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Teetoo
 
What is the meaning of Islam or muslims do you know abou this

You said Good for Pakistan not for Islam, my dear friend when the President of Pakistan is taking oath he himself responsible whatever the constition is saying he should do or implements.

Ex President was loyal and off course good muslim a moderate and reformer muslim who knows the best for country and best for muslims.

You cannot challenge Government rit where the capital is situated ,  LAL MASJID ACTUALLY TH SAFE COMPOUND FOR  EXTREMIST AND TERRORS
and Mushraff was trying his level best that there is no blood shed , when things become worst and worst off course the government can take the action.

If Mushraff was not taking the action action was coming from USA they want to do their way likewise what they are doing now days in Wazirastan and others Afghan area.

Keep in mind go and learn good knowledge of muslim and as well learn that what is the responsiblity of  President or  King or Amir ul Momanin the same , nobody allowing to challenge government rit.

Mushraff foresight  you can see Pakistan still alive and alhumdullah will run.

Dont think so Mushraff Era is final , inshllaha he is coming back , we as a nation is very proud that world is well aware that what is the meaning of Mushraff , meaning is that knowledge , leadership, tolerance , that is the reason he go another 8 lectures from various USA uni and other world affair orgnaisations.

Today only Muhsraff can bring peace and economy and law and order in Pakistan.

Pakistan Army is proud and nation is proud for him.

thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Teetoo</p>
<p>What is the meaning of Islam or muslims do you know abou this</p>
<p>You said Good for Pakistan not for Islam, my dear friend when the President of Pakistan is taking oath he himself responsible whatever the constition is saying he should do or implements.</p>
<p>Ex President was loyal and off course good muslim a moderate and reformer muslim who knows the best for country and best for muslims.</p>
<p>You cannot challenge Government rit where the capital is situated ,  LAL MASJID ACTUALLY TH SAFE COMPOUND FOR  EXTREMIST AND TERRORS<br />
and Mushraff was trying his level best that there is no blood shed , when things become worst and worst off course the government can take the action.</p>
<p>If Mushraff was not taking the action action was coming from USA they want to do their way likewise what they are doing now days in Wazirastan and others Afghan area.</p>
<p>Keep in mind go and learn good knowledge of muslim and as well learn that what is the responsiblity of  President or  King or Amir ul Momanin the same , nobody allowing to challenge government rit.</p>
<p>Mushraff foresight  you can see Pakistan still alive and alhumdullah will run.</p>
<p>Dont think so Mushraff Era is final , inshllaha he is coming back , we as a nation is very proud that world is well aware that what is the meaning of Mushraff , meaning is that knowledge , leadership, tolerance , that is the reason he go another 8 lectures from various USA uni and other world affair orgnaisations.</p>
<p>Today only Muhsraff can bring peace and economy and law and order in Pakistan.</p>
<p>Pakistan Army is proud and nation is proud for him.</p>
<p>thank you</p>
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		<title>By: farrah k raja</title>
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		<dc:creator>farrah k raja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Teetoo
Musharraf was best for pakistan but not for islam .. as his sologan . ” sub sey pehlay pakistan” we reject that because sub sey pehlay islam then pakistan…
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I am surprised at the comment since when has Pakistan and Islam become separate?
Pakistan Army has a motto;IMAN,TAQWA,JIHAD FE SABEEL ALLAH.
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As per your comment SAB SAI PEHLAI ISLAM ,means that all of us should start fighting in Palestine,in Iraq,in Afghanistan to save Islam and our country, our homes,women,children can die defenseless but none the less they will go to Paradise.Because it is our duty to Islam.
This is exactly what Lal Masjid Imam thought?Was it right or wrong that is upto you?
Regarding Musharraf apologising ,He is a Muslim and a Soldier of course he will never be happy on loss of life.He might have regretts the way LAL MASJID IMAM used Children and Women as a shield and loss of their lives and the way media covered it like a cheap propoganda but no he is not appologetic.
Remember wars have been taking place between Iran and Iraq,Iraq and Kuwait,Iran and Afghanistan.So no we have to think as Pakistani first.Enemy be he a Muslim if we have to choose between protection of one person or lives of millions what will you choose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Teetoo<br />
Musharraf was best for pakistan but not for islam .. as his sologan . ” sub sey pehlay pakistan” we reject that because sub sey pehlay islam then pakistan…<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
I am surprised at the comment since when has Pakistan and Islam become separate?<br />
Pakistan Army has a motto;IMAN,TAQWA,JIHAD FE SABEEL ALLAH.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
As per your comment SAB SAI PEHLAI ISLAM ,means that all of us should start fighting in Palestine,in Iraq,in Afghanistan to save Islam and our country, our homes,women,children can die defenseless but none the less they will go to Paradise.Because it is our duty to Islam.<br />
This is exactly what Lal Masjid Imam thought?Was it right or wrong that is upto you?<br />
Regarding Musharraf apologising ,He is a Muslim and a Soldier of course he will never be happy on loss of life.He might have regretts the way LAL MASJID IMAM used Children and Women as a shield and loss of their lives and the way media covered it like a cheap propoganda but no he is not appologetic.<br />
Remember wars have been taking place between Iran and Iraq,Iraq and Kuwait,Iran and Afghanistan.So no we have to think as Pakistani first.Enemy be he a Muslim if we have to choose between protection of one person or lives of millions what will you choose?</p>
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		<title>By: teetoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>teetoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen everybody...
Musharraf was best for pakistan but not for islam .. as his sologan . &quot; sub sey pehlay pakistan&quot; we reject that because sub sey pehlay islam then pakistan...
if you people know history of muslims so muslims did never win by money , by force, by racing with others countires or by established new policies.. these things are counted but first of all a strong faith on ALLAH is necessory.. and unfortunately we muslims dont have that much strong faith,, like whnever we are in toruble first we look towards money, any source etc  whereas we(muslims) should take start from the name of ALLAH.. but our hearts gone dead now, full of rust by doing many sins, and now we do sin but we even dont think that thats a sin... 

now musharraf is apologizing about his some past acts (lal musjid) but thats not finished to just say SORRY...

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[&lt;strong&gt;Moderator&#039;s response:&lt;/strong&gt; Assalam Alaikum. I am curious to know where Musharraf has supposedly &quot;apologized&quot; his &quot;past acts,&quot; specifically on dealing with the lal masjid terrorists? I look forward to your seeing your reference.

Secondly, too much is being made out of nothing. To say &lt;em&gt;&quot;sub sey pehley Pakistan&quot;&lt;/em&gt; (Pakistan first) does not contradict/negate Islam or relegate it to a secondary position in any manner. Of course we are all Muslims and Islam should always be of paramount importance to us, but to state &lt;em&gt;&quot;sub sey pehley Pakistan&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- the purpose of which is to merely emphasis the importance of the nation and the need for us to act in a way that is beneficial for the country -- should not be taken as standing in tension with or superseding Islam. I am sure that has never been Musharraf’s intention.

Finally, Islam does not teach one to put their brains aside and become stupid. The Quran itself teaches us, for example, to act intelligently under various circumstances. To give an example, during a battle, if the enemy happens to be in a much stronger position, we are not to just go to war trusting Allah and hoping we will win. Instead, a strategically withdrawal is permitted, to plan, and then to re-launch an attack. Of course, throughout this process one is to maintain trust in Allah and pray for victory. But that does not entail acting outright dumb and taking a crazy course of action which is tantamount to suicide.

So &lt;strong&gt;ABSOLUTELY YES&lt;/strong&gt;: you &lt;strong&gt;HAVE TO&lt;/strong&gt; plan, make yourself financially strong, establish new policies and critically review existing policies etc. All of this &lt;strong&gt;MUST&lt;/strong&gt; be accomplished. Now again, this does not mean not trusting Allah, or putting faith aside. It just means trusting Allah &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;AND&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; using the brain He has given us for the betterment of our community. Without striving and making an effort to change our condition, we cannot go an inch forward. 

And please do look at Islamic history because you will see that the early Muslims DID use force, make policies, conquered lands, created wealth etc. This has ALWAYS occurred in Islamic history. Any introductory course book on Islamic history for the undergraduate level will make this amply clear to you.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen everybody&#8230;<br />
Musharraf was best for pakistan but not for islam .. as his sologan . &#8221; sub sey pehlay pakistan&#8221; we reject that because sub sey pehlay islam then pakistan&#8230;<br />
if you people know history of muslims so muslims did never win by money , by force, by racing with others countires or by established new policies.. these things are counted but first of all a strong faith on ALLAH is necessory.. and unfortunately we muslims dont have that much strong faith,, like whnever we are in toruble first we look towards money, any source etc  whereas we(muslims) should take start from the name of ALLAH.. but our hearts gone dead now, full of rust by doing many sins, and now we do sin but we even dont think that thats a sin&#8230; </p>
<p>now musharraf is apologizing about his some past acts (lal musjid) but thats not finished to just say SORRY&#8230;</p>
<p>+++++++++</p>
<p>[<strong>Moderator's response:</strong> Assalam Alaikum. I am curious to know where Musharraf has supposedly "apologized" his "past acts," specifically on dealing with the lal masjid terrorists? I look forward to your seeing your reference.</p>
<p>Secondly, too much is being made out of nothing. To say <em>"sub sey pehley Pakistan"</em> (Pakistan first) does not contradict/negate Islam or relegate it to a secondary position in any manner. Of course we are all Muslims and Islam should always be of paramount importance to us, but to state <em>"sub sey pehley Pakistan"</em> -- the purpose of which is to merely emphasis the importance of the nation and the need for us to act in a way that is beneficial for the country -- should not be taken as standing in tension with or superseding Islam. I am sure that has never been Musharraf’s intention.</p>
<p>Finally, Islam does not teach one to put their brains aside and become stupid. The Quran itself teaches us, for example, to act intelligently under various circumstances. To give an example, during a battle, if the enemy happens to be in a much stronger position, we are not to just go to war trusting Allah and hoping we will win. Instead, a strategically withdrawal is permitted, to plan, and then to re-launch an attack. Of course, throughout this process one is to maintain trust in Allah and pray for victory. But that does not entail acting outright dumb and taking a crazy course of action which is tantamount to suicide.</p>
<p>So <strong>ABSOLUTELY YES</strong>: you <strong>HAVE TO</strong> plan, make yourself financially strong, establish new policies and critically review existing policies etc. All of this <strong>MUST</strong> be accomplished. Now again, this does not mean not trusting Allah, or putting faith aside. It just means trusting Allah <em><strong>AND</strong></em> using the brain He has given us for the betterment of our community. Without striving and making an effort to change our condition, we cannot go an inch forward. </p>
<p>And please do look at Islamic history because you will see that the early Muslims DID use force, make policies, conquered lands, created wealth etc. This has ALWAYS occurred in Islamic history. Any introductory course book on Islamic history for the undergraduate level will make this amply clear to you.]</p>
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		<title>By: hitmanali</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Crisis Pakistan is going through right now is so what this nation rightly deserves. We pushed away a leader Like President Musharraf ( Hes still my President) only to hand power to such looters.

&amp; Since the cat is away the mice are at play. They wanted to get rid of the cat so they did &amp; the nation is suffering the economy is on the verge of disaster.

Rightly deserved. This so called democracy the people wish for is what they got. Now Enjoy you illiterate nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Crisis Pakistan is going through right now is so what this nation rightly deserves. We pushed away a leader Like President Musharraf ( Hes still my President) only to hand power to such looters.</p>
<p>&amp; Since the cat is away the mice are at play. They wanted to get rid of the cat so they did &amp; the nation is suffering the economy is on the verge of disaster.</p>
<p>Rightly deserved. This so called democracy the people wish for is what they got. Now Enjoy you illiterate nation.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naseer
Where have you been?Long time no see.</description>
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Where have you been?Long time no see.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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