Recent reports in the western media indicate that Pakistan needs as much as $10 billion to avoid an economic meltdown.
and:
Pakistan’s foreign currency reserves are falling fast and if forward liabilities are included, the real reserves may go down to $3 billion. This cannot meet the import bill of one whole month.
Out of total reserves of $8.467 billion, the reserves held by the commercial banks stood at $3.461 billion on September 23. From September 22, the reserves fell by around $180 million, as there were no receipts while the government made heavy payments for oil and other imports.
This week, Moody’s Investors Service lowered Pakistan’s credit outlook to negative due to the risk of “missed repayments” on the nation’s debt.
Pakistan’s gradual economic decline, which started last year, alarmed the United States and Britain as they feared that financial chaos could allow terrorists to deepen their roots in the country.
To avoid such an eventuality, they decided to launch a new group of donors.
Read more about our dismal state here:
It is interesting to note that former President Musharraf inherited a far more fledgling Pakistan in 1999, a Pakistan which was on the verge of being declared a terrorist, bankrupt and a failed state. Musharraf inherited a Pakistan which had less than a billion dollars as foreign reserves, with an economy the mere size of $75 billion, and with 65% of our GDP used for debt servicing. Although currently our economy is fast deteriorating due to the incompetency of the new regime (who looted Pakistan in the past), the situation in 1999 was FAR WORSE than what it is now.
And despite not receiving the above level of support and commitment from the international community, Musharraf and his team were still able to deliver, with Pakistan’s situation improving prior to September 11, 2001. For example:
Pakistan’s foreign reserves had risen up to $3.2 billion by September 10 2001. To quote Dr. Ishrat Husain:
“In 1999, the ratio of foreign reserves held by India was 40 times that of Pakistan. By June 2002 this ratio has declined to 8 times while the size of Indian economy is about 6 to 7 times that of Pakistan.”
Dr. Ishrat Husain goes on to say:
“It may be relevant to point out that the biggest quantum jump in our reserves had taken place between July 2000 and June 2001 i.e. well before September 2001. During this one year period the reserves increased by 138 percent to $ 3.1 billion. The rate of increase during July 2001 and June 2002 was 105 percent.”
Consider the improvement of a variety of indicators prior to September 11 2001. We read:
“While acknowledging the salutary impact of the external account improvement, however, it is worth stressing that the trend improvement was visible well before the seminal September 11 events. Interest rates were already on the way down; foreign currency reserves were edging up; the exchange rate was relatively stable; the inflation downtrend was well defined, and the government’s continuing fiscal discipline and commitment to reforms had already set the stage for the IMF PRGF, and the subsequent re-profiling of external debt. Nonetheless, the pre-existing positive trends did gain invaluable momentum in FY02, post-September 11. However, despite these major positives, the economy was not unscathed in FY02.”
Finally, to cite Afreen Baig:
“… let it be clarified that major economic indicators had improved before 9/11, and the economy had already started showing signs of recovery and revival.
In that SHORT span of 2 years BEFORE 9/11, Pakistan’s revenue increased from Rs.308 billion to become Rs.395 billion. Exports increased from $7.5 billion to become $9.2 billion. Foreign Reserves increased from $ 1 billion to become $3.25 billion. Debt servicing as a ratio to Revenue decreased from 65% to 57%. Public and external debt as a percentage to Foreign exchange earnings declined from 300% to 250%. Current account deficit decreased from $2.4 billion to become $510 million. And, Pakistan’s large-scale manufacturing grew by 11% in June 2001 against 3.5% in 1998. These facts should set aside the skeptical grumblers.”
It is quite true, however, that after September 11 2001, Pakistan’s economy further flourished. But this did not occur purely on the basis of aid from the international community but due to the wits of the managers of Pakistan at the time.
Consider the current situation. Despite its deterioration, the present economy is still much larger and stronger than the one we had in 1999. And yet the new regime is unable to manage it. They are reduced to the point of begging the international world for aid and donations!
This also reminds us of the sheer hypocrisy and double standard of our media. The Pakistani media played a pivotal role in spreading the lie that whatever economic improvements we witnessed under Musharraf were largely or purely due to the aid which Pakistan received from, say, the U.S. This disinformation was used as an argument against the Musharraf government. And while now we have the new regime OPENLY BEGGING THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY FOR AID, the media seems not to be interested to use this as a point of criticism against the PPPP government. Why?
Members of the new regime often claim that they “inherited” a poor economy. But this is an outright lie. Why under Musharraf foreign reserves reached the $17 billion mark? How was the rupee relatively stable under Musharraf? How was the economy increasing at the rate of over 6% annually under Musharraf? How on earth did a mere $75 billion economy more than doubled in less than a decade’s time under Musharraf? Why oh why did Moody give Pakistan a higher rating under Musharraf? Thus, in fact, the new regime inherited the best economy any government in Pakistan has ever inherited. True, things were not 100% fine and dandy, but neither was the situation utterly hopeless. The problems which existed could have been properly managed. Instead, manageable problems quickly became utterly uncontrollable within months after the elections. [For the economic achievements of the Musharraf government, please see the articles here.]
Too much time was wasted on irrelevant issues at the expense of the economy. The economy also suffered immensely when Ishaq Dar, probably the worst Pakistani on the planet, made a series of irresponsible statements about the state of the Pakistan economy after becoming finance minister, as a result of which Moody’s immediately downgraded Pakistan’s ratings and investors began flying out of Pakistan at the speed of light. Ishaq Dar is the same despicable character who played a key role in destroying Pakistan’s economy in the 1990’s under the PML-N government. This time around he caused immense damage to Pakistan through his factually erroneous and irresponsible statements within days of assuming office!
Unfortunately, it appears we are fast going back in time to the 1990’s era, when the PPP and the PML-N destroyed Pakistan’s economy and spent most of their time — besides conducting criminal activities — begging other nations for aid and loans, which they then misused. While I feel sorry about the state of the Pakistan economy, a part of me also feels that the Pakistani people, at least the ones who voted for these monstrous PPPP and PML-N candidates, deserve this. It is not as if these voters knew nothing about the gory past of these parties. We all knew full well how the two parties looted Pakistan in the past and committed wide scale corruption, almost destroying the nation. I am surprised even if a moron expected these ghastly characters to have done something new or different this time around.
You reap what you sow.
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Our illiterate public voted these demon-crats in … mesmerised by GEO sponsored version of demon-crazy …. and now we’re back to beggery !
Musharraf was the best thing that happened to Pakistan! I really miss you Musharraf ! Pakistan is lonely without you. We lack the leadership you brought with you! We Pakistani are unfortunate to lose you …. ungrateful nation …..
By: Mirza Royal on October 3, 2008
at 2:10 am
musharaf was the best pakistani.i love him very much.God help him and my pakistan
By: wasif on October 18, 2008
at 6:43 pm
Dear Author,
You have always researched material in ur posts. Yes, it is true that in Musharaf’s era, Pakistan had 17 billion US $, but can u give us information that how the heck those $17 billion becomes less than $8 billion in just few months?
thx
By: Hassan Abbas on October 19, 2008
at 3:55 pm
Hi Abbas
You seem to be well informed person any news on dollars being sent out of country everyday?Immediately after Zardari took over?
Was it by bacs or bags?
By: shah on October 20, 2008
at 8:36 am
Well dear Shah,
If I was well informed then why would I ask the Author to provide the information.
What I believe is that we are paying off what previous government does to us. It is very well known to everybody that PPP and Nawaz group did huge corruption in Pakistan, but after 1999, Musharaf government who supposed and well acclaimed to be non-corrupted government has not done the corruption (according to Musharaf’s followers), then how is it possible that in just a few months i.e. from Feb 18, 2008 our reserves start falling down so fast that we are now thinking of plan C which is to contact IMF( just 3 three or few years ago Mush government announce that we are now out from IMF’s loans).
I dont know about the total reserves on or before Musharaf’s resignation but what is the utilization of the money. We should not blame anyone before we have proof. Thats what I wanted to know.
Thank you.
By: Hassan Abbas on October 22, 2008
at 11:16 am
That is what my question is Mr.Hassan.
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Why within six months coalation forces are failing in their mission?
Why within past six months Islamabad is Blasted one after another ?
What you believe is your personal convenience,
otherwise you would notice the way Benazir and Zardari and Nawaz decended on PAkistan to bring democracy was litterally to destabalise Pakistan by creating crises after crises with the help of Media,Investors and people lost their confidence ,property boom went down.Foreign Investers backed out.
IS MR.ZARDARI HIMSELF A NAME TO BE TRUSTED AND INVESTED ON?
Let us make comparison:
Gold was given to Mr.Bhutto in boxes by Saudi Government Why?
They trusted the name Bhutto.
Why Saudia is not doing any more favours to PPP or Zardari?
I think it is time people of Pakistan should have access to that gold .It never belonged to Bhutto personally.
It was given from Saudi King to people of Pakistan.
But let us wait a little ……untill Zardari exits.
By: shah on October 23, 2008
at 9:58 am
Mr.Hassan
Can you recall time under Benazir when she ruled the country without IMF and World Bank loan where were these loans invested?
By: shah on October 23, 2008
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By: Take Back Pakistan » Pakistan Back to Begging Under Democracy on October 24, 2008
at 9:59 am
Pakistan Back with IMF and For Sale Soon
So, the panic button has been hit by the incompetent government and its no hpoers. After spending the last 7 months without a competent finance minister and working on personal agendas and empowering each other when they should’ve worked on issues such as the economy from day one, its time to panic and beg for help.
So much has been said about Shaukat Aziz, its the same Shaukat Aziz who said goodbye to IMF a few years back, its the same Shaukat Aziz they have been giving a bad name to, its the same Shaukat Aziz who managed to get alot of investors come into Pakistan, who created a strong banking system which is still powerful, who because of his privatisation policy and his personal credibility on the world scene built up Pakistan’s reserves of $17bn.
During his tenure credible people were working on the finances of the country, no wonder we had the best performing stock market and the GDP growth was at one stage better than India.It only takes a few months of discredited people running the finances of the country that investors are taking their money out of Pakistan and discredited people like Zardari to be the president and get financial help refused by strong friends of Pakistan Saudi Arabia and China.
A government who strengthened themselves in the last 7 months who did nothing at all to build any confidence or attract foreign investors or even keep the local investors in Pakistan. A government which blamed Shaukat Aziz for everything but used the reserves and money left over by him over a year ago to pay for the double oil prices, to pay for other imports, to pay for the Benazir Food Scheme.
A mere $5bn shortfall which was needed to avoid the IMF, could not be arranged by the present discredible people in the last 7 months.People who are not qualified enough always blame others for their problems and rather than working to get the money always knock on other peoples door to give them assistance.
People voted for this in Feb 18th Elections, after 7 months they have got much more than they ever imagined, incompetent ministers, wrong statements, one person working on 4 ministries (when they are not qualified to even hold one ministry), no finance minister, shuttling between London, Dubai and Saudi Arabia, blaming and working against Musharraf, wasting time on in camera sessions, writing letters to each other, Murree declarations, working on Zardari’s security and getting Marriot bombed, planing to build walls around Islamabad, changing every building,airport,roads,bridges,towns and cities name to Benazir’s name, going to the UN and talking about Benazir,requesting the UN to investigate the death of Benazir and getting it refused, wheat problem still exists, power shortages have worsened, bombings still go on, war on terror getting worse,Rupee has no value left, stock exchange below 9000 points, no investors coming to Pakistan, still the same VIP movements, still using same expensive cars, still spending government money on tours,no clear policy on any issues, political tensions getting worse, leg pullings,changing loyalties…..
This is what the people voted for in the elections they weren’t expecting it to be delivered with this much speed and efficiency, well at least we can be proud of the present government that they have lived up to their expectations in record time.
Pakistan Ka Khuda Hafiz
SAJJAD – UK
By: SAJJAD on October 24, 2008
at 12:50 pm
Hassan Abbas
Its simple, if i open an account for you and put 5 million in their and tell you that i made this money by privatissations, foreign direct investments, exports…i also have paid my expenses from here like oil, other imports etc…
So, tough times are coming ahead specially oil price doubling so make sure you work hard to get more money in…
than i give you the account…..if ur ensible and know what ur doing …..first you’ll see the situation, you’ll see the money coming in and going out, than you’ll hard to make sure than you get enough money coming in with the help of ue reputation, friends, investment etc….if u do that u might struggle but u won’t go bankrupt…
Second option…government scenario…if u take the acoount and start spending that money and pay for your expensive oil bill because petrol has doubled, but u spend the last 7 months going after musharraf and strenghening ur hold on power than u’ll forget that u have other issues to deal with and before u realise the situation has caught up…..
countries are run the same way a individual runs his/her personal account if u earn money and keep on putting money in u wont bankrupt, but if u have certain money in ur account and u say lets chill out for the next 7 months without any work, lets just spend than after 7 months u’ll go bankrupt…thats whats happened….
since last november when shaukat aziz left till this november, their were $16bn reserves, the present government did not do anything to get more money in on time they just spent it, oil doubling and food prices hasn’t helped…
economies are every minute business they have to be looked after, if the government cant even find a finance minister how do they expect to no go bankrupt after 7 months…since last november till today pakistan has used the money made in the last 9 yeras to pay for this bills without any money coming in and still u have $8bn of reserves….imagine being in 1999 when we had $500mn reserves…..
By: SAJJAD on October 24, 2008
at 1:05 pm
Sajjad
good work ,Zardari and his team should know, Pakistan has people who are monitering the situation and it is extremely painful to see the incompetency (maybe a diplomatic word for plundring country) of Zardari and PPP.
It is a pain not because simply Musharaff is not there it is a pain because we have a credible name with experience whom these people are not allowing to work.
In the name of Democracy a feudal with no respect has brought the morale and smeard the face of Pakistan like a cave woman getting hold of lipstick for the first time.
I wish if we could criticise the policies instead of Mr.Zardari but they do not exist.
I wish if PPP workers could really compile up their data of progress and figures that will help us to see some good.
By: SHAH on October 25, 2008
at 1:18 pm
Bring this money home from one single source and all will be fine fo pakistan
ZARDARI’S LOCAL ASSETS ARE:
Plot no. 121, Phase VIII, DHA Karachi.
Agricultural land situated in Deh Dali Wadi, Taluka, Tando Allah Yar.
Agricultural property located in Deh Tahooki Taluka, District Hyderabad measuring 65.15 acres.
Agricultural land falling in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 827.14 acres
Agricultural land situated in Deh 76-Nusrat, Taluka, District Nawabshah measuring 293.18 acres
Residential plot No 3 (Now House) Block No B-I, City Survey No 2268 Ward-A Nawabshah
Huma Heights (Asif Apartments) 133, Depot Lines, Commissariat Road, Karachi
Trade Tower Building 3/CL/V Abdullah Haroon Road, Karachi
House No 8, St 9, F-8/2, Islamabad
Agricultural land in Deh 42 Dad Taluka/ District Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh 51 Dad Taluka Distt Nawabshah
Plot No 3 & 4 Sikni (residential) Near Housing Society Ltd. Nawabshah
CafT Sheraz (C.S No.. 2231/2 & 2231/3) Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh 23-Deh Taluka & District Nawabshah
Agricultural property in Deh 72-A, Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh 76-Nusrat Taluka, Nawabshah
Plot No. A/136 Survey No 2346 Ward A Government Employee’s Cooperative Housing Society Ltd, Nawabshah
Agricultural land in Deh Jaryoon Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Aroro Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Nondani Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Lotko Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Jhol Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Kandari Taluka Tando Allah Yar, Distt. Hyderabad
Agricultural land in Deh Deghi Taluka Tando Mohammad Khan
Agricultural land in Deh Rahooki Taluka, Hyderabad
Property in Deh Charo Taluka, Badin
Agricultural property in Deh Dali Wadi Taluka, Hyderabad
Five acres prime land allotted by DG KDA in 1995/96
4,000 kanals on Simli Dam
80 acres of land at Hawkes Bay
13 acres of land at Maj Gulradi (KPT Land)
One acre plot, GCI, Clifton
One acre of land, State Life (International Center, Sadar)
FEBCs worth Rs. 4 million
SHARES IN SUGAR MILLS INCLUDE:
Sakrand Sugar Mills Nawabshah
Ansari Sugar
Mills Hyderabad
Mirza Sugar Mills Badin
Pangrio Sugar Mills Thatta
Bachani Sugar Mills Sanghar
FRONT COMPANIES IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES:
Bomer Fiannce Inc, British Virgin Islands
Mariston Securities Inc, British Virgin Islands
Marleton Business S A, British Virgin Islands
Capricorn Trading S A, British Virgin Islands
Fagarita Consulting INc, British Virgin Islands
Marvil Associated Inc, British Virgin Islands
Pawnbury Finance Ltd, British Virgin Islands
Oxton Trading Limited, British Virgin Islands
Brinslen Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
Chimitex Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
Elkins Holding S A, British Virgin Islands
Minister Invest Ltd, British Virgin Islands
Silvernut Investment Inc, British Virgin Islands
Tacolen Investment Ltd, British Virgin Islands
Marlcrdon Invest S A, British Virgin Islands
Dustan Trading Inc, British Virgin Islands
Reconstruction and Development Finance Inc, British Virgin Islands
Nassam Alexander Inc.
Westminster Securities Inc.
Laptworth Investment Inc 202, Saint Martin Drive, West Jacksonville
Intra Foods Inc. 3376, Lomrel Grove, Jacksonville, Florida
Dynatel Trading Co, Florida
A..S Realty Inc. Palm Beach Gardens Florida
Bon Voyage Travel Consultancy Inc, Florida
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN UK ARE:
355 acre Rockwood Estate, Surrey (Now stands admitted)
Flat 6, 11 Queensgate Terrace, London SW7
26 Palace Mansions, Hammersmith Road, London W14
27 Pont Street, London, SW1
20 Wilton Crescent, London SW1
23 Lord Chancellor Walk, Coombe Hill, Kingston, Surrey
The Mansion, Warren Lane, West Hampstead, London
A flat at Queensgate Terrace, London
Houses at Hammersmith Road, Wilton Crescent, Kingston and in Hampstead.
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN BELGIUM ARE:
12-3 Boulevard De-Nieuport, 1000, Brussels, (Building containing 4 shops and 2 large apartments)
Chausee De-Mons, 1670, Brussels
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN FRANCE ARE:
La Manoir De La Reine Blanche and property in Cannes
ZARDARI’S PROPERTIES IN USA — in the name of Asif Zardari and managed by Shimmy Qureshi are:
Stud farm in Texas
Wellington Club East, West Palm Beach
12165 West Forest Hills, Florida
Escue Farm 13,524 India Mound, West Palm Beach
3,220 Santa Barbara Drive, Wellington Florida
13,254 Polo Club Road, West Palm Beach Florida
3,000 North Ocean Drive, Singer Islands, Florida
525 South Flager Driver, West Palm Beach, Florida
Holiday Inn Houston Owned by Asif Ali Zardari, Iqbal Memon and Sadar-ud-Din Hashwani
ZARDARI’S BANK ACCOUNTS IN FOREGN COMPANIES ARE:
Union Bank of Switzerland (Account No. 552.343, 257.556.60Q, 433.142.60V, 216.393.60T)
Citibank Private Limited (SWZ) (Account No. 342034)
Citibank N A Dubai (Account No. 818097)
Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62290209)
Barclays Bank (Suisse) (Account No. 62274400)
Banque Centrade Ormard Burrus S A
Banque Pache S A
Banque Pictet & Cie
Banque La Henin, Paris (Account No. 00101953552)
Bank Natinede Paris in Geneva (Account NO.. 563.726.9)
Swiss Bank Corporation
Chase Manhattan Bank Switzerland
American Express Bank Switzerland
Societe De Banque Swissee
Barclays Bank (Knightsbridge Branch) (Account No. 90991473)
Barclays Bank, Kingston and Chelsea Branch, (Sort Code 20-47-34135)
National Westminster Bank, Alwych Branch (Account No. 9683230)
Habib Bank (Pall Mall Branch).
National Westminster Bank, Barking Branch, (Account No. 28558999).
Habib Bank AG, Moorgate, London EC2
National Westminster Bank, Edgware Road, London
Banque Financiei E Dela Citee, Credit Suisse
Habib Bank AG Zurich, Switzerland
Pictet Et Cie, Geneva
Credit Agricole, Paris
Credit Agridolf, Branch 11, Place Brevier, 76440, Forges Les Faux
Credit Agricole, Branch Haute – Normandie, 76230, Boise Chillaum
By: miirza on October 28, 2008
at 11:23 am
Hi
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I have added your site on my blogroll. Like you, I am a Musharraf supporter but I need people to comment on my site and support Musharraf because I am facing opposition from Nawaz Sharif supporters.
So please help me out.
Thanks
By: khansahab on October 29, 2008
at 10:07 pm
miirza,
Yaar aap jaisay loag zindbad….
By: SAJJAD on October 30, 2008
at 10:00 am
Dear Khan Sahib,
Well i started politics at the age of 14 was associasted with PPP until 1991 and thereafter i quite from politics due to some differences between me and PPP -
NAWAZ SHARIF
PHYSCIALLY FAT MENTALLY SICK
The person who is not looking his own color what he did in 1997 attacks on SC and removal of CHIEF JUSTICE OF PAKISTAN in civilian governments – this is one of the darkness day of our judiciary –
He said he would like to help nation of pakistan
WHY HE IS SPENDING HIS LIFE IN LAVISH STYLE
ON EXILE HE WAS IN SARWAR PALACE
BEFORE RAI WIND
HOW HE CAN HELP – his own family is going for UK AND USA for medical treatment
yellow cab
foreign accounts ceased
A LOT I CAN CHALLENGE HIM TO SIT DOWN WITH ME FOR OPEN TV FORUM
I WILL NAKED HIM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM
HIS OWN BROTHER SAID HE WAS SERIOUSLY ILL
AND WAS TREATED WHAT WAS BRAIN TUMOR ETC
FALES AND BIASED TO GET THE SYMPATHY OF NATION
THEY DID ONLY FOR THEIR FORTUNATE , THEY BECOME PERSONAL TO EX PERESIDENT AND WAS INSULTING THE PERSON WHO GIFTED PAKISTAN A REAL DEMOCRACY.
MR. SHARIF WAS INVOLVED JUDICIARY ISSUES , THE HISTORY WILL SAY ONE DYA.
MORE IS COMING
KUDA HAFIZ
NASEER
By: Naseer on October 30, 2008
at 4:34 pm
Naseer,Sajjad and M khan
for past week I have been posting on legslip.com
I would recommend it.
By: SHAH on October 30, 2008
at 8:05 pm
NASEER ZINDABAD
By: SAJJAD on October 31, 2008
at 12:33 pm
Naseer
Where have you been?Long time no see.
By: SHAH on November 1, 2008
at 12:11 pm
The Crisis Pakistan is going through right now is so what this nation rightly deserves. We pushed away a leader Like President Musharraf ( Hes still my President) only to hand power to such looters.
& Since the cat is away the mice are at play. They wanted to get rid of the cat so they did & the nation is suffering the economy is on the verge of disaster.
Rightly deserved. This so called democracy the people wish for is what they got. Now Enjoy you illiterate nation.
By: hitmanali on November 8, 2008
at 8:01 am
Listen everybody…
Musharraf was best for pakistan but not for islam .. as his sologan . ” sub sey pehlay pakistan” we reject that because sub sey pehlay islam then pakistan…
if you people know history of muslims so muslims did never win by money , by force, by racing with others countires or by established new policies.. these things are counted but first of all a strong faith on ALLAH is necessory.. and unfortunately we muslims dont have that much strong faith,, like whnever we are in toruble first we look towards money, any source etc whereas we(muslims) should take start from the name of ALLAH.. but our hearts gone dead now, full of rust by doing many sins, and now we do sin but we even dont think that thats a sin…
now musharraf is apologizing about his some past acts (lal musjid) but thats not finished to just say SORRY…
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[Moderator's response: Assalam Alaikum. I am curious to know where Musharraf has supposedly "apologized" his "past acts," specifically on dealing with the lal masjid terrorists? I look forward to your seeing your reference.
Secondly, too much is being made out of nothing. To say "sub sey pehley Pakistan" (Pakistan first) does not contradict/negate Islam or relegate it to a secondary position in any manner. Of course we are all Muslims and Islam should always be of paramount importance to us, but to state "sub sey pehley Pakistan" -- the purpose of which is to merely emphasis the importance of the nation and the need for us to act in a way that is beneficial for the country -- should not be taken as standing in tension with or superseding Islam. I am sure that has never been Musharraf’s intention.
Finally, Islam does not teach one to put their brains aside and become stupid. The Quran itself teaches us, for example, to act intelligently under various circumstances. To give an example, during a battle, if the enemy happens to be in a much stronger position, we are not to just go to war trusting Allah and hoping we will win. Instead, a strategically withdrawal is permitted, to plan, and then to re-launch an attack. Of course, throughout this process one is to maintain trust in Allah and pray for victory. But that does not entail acting outright dumb and taking a crazy course of action which is tantamount to suicide.
So ABSOLUTELY YES: you HAVE TO plan, make yourself financially strong, establish new policies and critically review existing policies etc. All of this MUST be accomplished. Now again, this does not mean not trusting Allah, or putting faith aside. It just means trusting Allah AND using the brain He has given us for the betterment of our community. Without striving and making an effort to change our condition, we cannot go an inch forward.
And please do look at Islamic history because you will see that the early Muslims DID use force, make policies, conquered lands, created wealth etc. This has ALWAYS occurred in Islamic history. Any introductory course book on Islamic history for the undergraduate level will make this amply clear to you.]
By: teetoo on January 14, 2009
at 7:37 am